Bach made an impromptu visit to King Frederick the Great of Prussia, and was . Gödel, Escher, and Bach are deeply intertwined in this very short Dialogue. What are some of the most riveting concepts featured in Gödel, Escher, Bach? Why isn’t the Douglas Hofstadter book Gödel, Escher, Bach available as an. Godel, Escher, Bach by Douglas R. Hofstadter, , available at Book Depository with free delivery worldwide.

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Jun 17, Matt rated it did not like it Shelves: Home Contact Us Help Free delivery worldwide. Perhaps that person would only see geometric shapes and nothing else, since there are no lower level hocstadter of building structures, etc.

Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas R. Hofstadter

The second type is theorems about the system. I can only invite the discerning reader to embark on this intellectual adventure — it is well-worth it. I thought it was only you up here! In fact, Hofstadter spells it out quite clearly for us, describing one of the “main theses” of the book as follows: Each chapter, he spent many pages questioning himself and the reader about connections between DNA, Godel’s Theorem, fuges, AI, hofstadetr many other dougoas from a well-educated mind.

I’m afraid I have only read the first half of the second half! When you look at this, bacg you see a puzzling world that does not follow the physical laws? Laurence Sterne borrowed from John Locke the theory of the association of ideas. Godel, Escher, Bach is a wonderful exploration of fascinating ideas at the heart of cognitive science: View all 6 comments. This system of enzymes causing the creation of new strands, strands defining the enzymes, creates a change of levels as new information are created from the process.

Enjoy the damn thing. Bach, the graphic art of Escher and the mathematical theorems of Godel, as well as ideas drawn from logic, biology, psychology, physics and linguistics, Douglas Hofstadter illuminates one of the greatest mysteries of modern science: The fiction is more compelling than the non-fiction. There are sections that look a little dated now, after so much advance in genetics and computing in particular.


But then out of the blue she gets heavy. But the writer cannot bring an imagined character out of the book into real life. Once the outer message is fully understood, there is no need for the inner message, since the inner messages can be reconstructed once we have fully developed the outer message.

Another is the presence of a fictional author in the index, Egbert B. Godel shows us that I paraphrase drastically that all logical systems allow statements about natural numbers that are true but unprovable within the system.

If you are slapping your knee right now, then you might like this book. Many concepts are elucidated as comedic dialogues between characters borrowed from fellow author and logician Lewis Carroll or others, and there are many fascinating illustrations. The fantasy rule states that fantasies can be nested within fantasies, with differing levels of reality.

Godel, Escher, Bach : An Eternal Golden Braid

Figure and ground form the basis for the idea of recursive and recursively enumerable or r. You walk away, and you stay away for a while.

Indeed, it cannot be proven.

He claims that it should be possible to create an Artificial Intelligence AI that is every bit as human as human intelligence. If intelligence involves learning, creativity, emotional responses, a sense of beauty, a sense of self, then there is a long road ahead, and it may be that these will only be realized when we have totally duplicated a living brain. This book is a must read or at least must selectively skim for anyone interested in intelligence.

The second one is information theory — another significant gap, considering that some results in information theory are perfectly applicable to more than a few of the author’s items of analysis, starting from the information processing in the brain which is nothing more than a sophisticated information processing biological machine, after allall the way down to the information processing in molecular biology and genetics as enabled by the genetic code.


I deeply disagree with this perspective — in my view, while these theorems dispel any naive pretension for a century-like a-la Hilbert finitistic and absolute achievement of simultaneous consistency and completeness, on the other hand we must bear in mind that: I could not with a clear conscience recommend this book to everyone, because I’m simply not that cruel.

However, I don’t think this detracts much, if anything, from this thoroughly thought-provoking read. It would be like recommending large doses of LSD to everyone: The infinitude of the real numbers never ceases to blow me away.

So GEB gets points subtracted for that. Retrieved from ” https: Our cells contain the genotype in our DNA which holds critical messages that triggers the manufacture of proteins, which triggers more reactions such as replication, until we have our physical manifestation or phenotype.

It is still valid today, although it did not mention the controversial possibilities of mind uploading mentioned by Marvin Minsky and Ray Kurzweil.

I’m afraid we have only read three quarters of the book! Just a moment while we sign you in to your Goodreads account. Views Read Edit View history.

United States Department douuglas Justice. Is that a true statement? Yet if this is truly the case, why does Hofstadter spend so much time discussing Bach; meta-mathematics; literary translation; Tortoises and Achilleses; Zen Buddhism; cellular biology; etc.